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		<title>In defense of the Pearls&#8230;some thoughts</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Missy&#8221; left a comment on my entry The Pearls, abuse and a false gospel, which was apparently copied from No Greater Joy&#8217;s Facebook page where it was copied from a squidoo lens.  I&#8217;m unclear whether permission to copy this was granted in either case, but have chosen to replace the comment with a link.  It [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Missy&#8221; left a <a href="http://roscommonacres.com/2010/02/the-pearls-abuse-and-a-false-gospel/comment-page-1/#comment-12611">comment </a>on my entry <a href="http://roscommonacres.com/2010/02/the-pearls-abuse-and-a-false-gospel/">The Pearls, abuse and a false gospel</a>, which was apparently copied from No Greater Joy&#8217;s <a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/No-Greater-Joy-Ministries/98287219406#!/notes/no-greater-joy-ministries/what-does-to-train-up-a-child-really-teach-parents-by-regina-normanson/381462822575">Facebook page</a> where it was copied from a <a href="http://www.squidoo.com/Pearls_2Train_Up_A_Child">squidoo lens</a>.  I&#8217;m unclear whether permission to copy this was granted in either case, but have chosen to replace the comment with a link.  It is lengthy, but worth addressing.  Take some time to read the entire thing. All block quotes, unless otherwise marked, are from the squidoo lens authored by Regina Normanson.</p>
<blockquote><p>There is an old joke about the student that excuses his lack of homework  by saying the dog ate his completed assignment. The joke was that no  one believed him, and he would still get a poor mark because the  homework was his responsibility.</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course it is his responsibility and I am not aware of a single blogger who is suggesting that Kevin and Lydia Schatz are not responsible for the abuse their children endured.  The analogy doesn&#8217;t work.  The ensuing paragraphs regarding our society&#8217;s lack of ability to take responsibility are irrelevant to the case and to the argument.  But let&#8217;s think about this for a moment.  Say the dog did eat your homework.  While it is still entirely your responsibility, will you not in future either restrain the dog or place your homework in a more secure location?</p>
<blockquote><p>Let&#8217;s suppose that a family DID closely follow the teachings on  the Pearls&#8217; web site <a href="http://www.nogreaterjoy.org/" target="_blank">www.nogreaterjoy.org</a>.  If that&#8217;s the case, the parents would have read this excerpt from an  article written by Michael Pearl &#8211; <em>IN DEFENSE OF BIBLICAL  CHASTISEMENT?</em></p>
<p><em><strong>When is it abuse?</strong><br />
You are abusing the child when it starts doing harm to the child. Listen  to your friends-especially to those friends that share your philosophy.  Ask the opinion of people you respect. If they think you are abusive,  get counsel in a hurry. Ask the opinion of your older children. If your  child is broken in spirit, cowed and subdued, you have a problem.  Children should be happy and cheerful, full of enthusiasm and  creativity. If your children are fearful or anxious, you should get some  counsel.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, let&#8217;s go to that very article, where the Pearls give a <a href="http://www.nogreaterjoy.org/articles/general-view/archive////in-defense-of-biblical-chastisement-part-2/">warning about abuse</a>.</p>
<p>There is an excellent paragraph near the top under the heading &#8220;Enjoy your children.&#8221;  It gives excellent advice I would like every parent to internalize and to practice.  You see that kind of thing in their work here and there, but it really doesn&#8217;t seem to be the focus.  One paragraph in a 44 paragraph essay?  At least it is near the top, though not referred to again.</p>
<p>The paragraph Normanson quotes is near the end, paragraph 41.  Up until this we have learned:</p>
<ul>
<li>That Christians who use the rod moderately are &#8220;meek.&#8221;  (Apparently a bad quality).</li>
<li>That if you reject the Pearl&#8217;s teaching and question their concepts, you are not fit to be a parent.  He pities your children, even.</li>
<li>That the proper tools for whipping your child come cheaper by the dozen, and their conspicuous location about the house and around your neck will keep them in line.</li>
<li>That church friends have noses longer than the pews they sit upon (and can&#8217;t be trusted to witness how you discipline your children.)</li>
<li>That you cannot put an upper limit on the number of &#8220;licks&#8221; a child receives.</li>
<li>That you continue the whipping until the child exhibits &#8220;total submission.&#8221;  If you ever stop before this point, you have lost his heart forever.</li>
<li>That if he hides, you should pursue him slowly, laughing at his &#8220;frail attempts.&#8221;</li>
</ul>
<p>Ironically, according to those who knew the Schatz family personally, the children were &#8220;<em>happy and cheerful, full of enthusiasm and  creativity.&#8221;</em> They did not cower, nor were they subdued, nor did they exhibit any of the outward signs we connect with abuse.</p>
<p>Now to the book.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>This book is not about discipline, nor problem children. The emphasis  is on the training of a child before the need to discipline arises&#8230;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>This was one of the<a href="http://roscommonacres.com/2006/03/hmmmmy-two-cents-on-no-greater-joy/"> first issues I had with the book</a>.  Their definition of &#8220;training.&#8221;  It is such a positive word, one that should be embraced as part of normal parenthood.  Everything we do is training.  Everything we do is discipline.  But they equate discipline with a severe spanking and training with <a href="http://roscommonacres.com/2006/04/the-garden-of-eden/">manufacturing an opportunity to &#8220;switch&#8221; your child</a> so that he can learn the force of your word.  Never forget that when you read &#8220;training&#8221; in their materials, it refers to a switch (however light) with the rod.</p>
<p><em>With proper training, discipline can be reduced to 5% of what many  now practice&#8230;</em></p>
<p>Really?  This is just me, but I&#8217;m not a fan of statistics pulled out of the air.  It always makes me suspicious of other claims in a text.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>If parents are frustrated to the point of anger, page 25 says:</strong><br />
<em>When children see you motivated by anger and frustration, they assume  that your &#8220;discipline&#8221; is just a personal matter, a competition of  interest&#8230;. </em></p></blockquote>
<p>Page 25.  Of a 150 page book.  We&#8217;re 17% through the book, but really, this section isn&#8217;t any help.  Unless you assume that the only way to harm a child is in anger. What if poor Lydia&#8217;s discipline session went down exactly like the Pearls prescribe?  Ten licks, talk to the child, if the answer doesn&#8217;t demonstrate complete submission, repeat.  And repeat.  And repeat.  And you can <a href="http://lauriemo.blogspot.com/2010/02/in-which-i-speak-of-unspeakable.html?showComment=1267133304009#c6303125832545145009">calmly spank a child to death</a>.  But the Pearls stress that if you &#8220;let&#8221; the child &#8220;win,&#8221; you have lost their heart forever.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>If a child is angered by the impatience and pride of parents, page 33  says:</strong><br />
<em>Father, if you care for your child&#8217;s soul more than your pride, then  humble yourself and ask his forgiveness (even if he is just two years  old)&#8230;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Wonderful!  And if pride had nothing to do with it?  The book isn&#8217;t a torture manual.  There are good things here and there, but they aren&#8217;t the emphasis.  More like passing thoughts.  And <strong><em>so much emphasis</em></strong> is put on the rod and how you will lose your child if you do not win with it and how you are weak if you do not apply it quickly and unmercifully.</p>
<p>Normanson has a few more quotes demonstrating where in the book the Pearls warn against disciplining in anger, ongoing brutality, intimidating children with threats about God as well as an encouragement to be a good role model.  All excellent points.</p>
<p>But that still does not discount the passages which are more concerning.  The general tendency to isolate you from other Christians who may question these methods.  The focus on &#8220;winning&#8221; and &#8220;total obedience&#8221; and &#8220;complete submission.&#8221;  The refusal to put a maximum number on the amount of &#8220;licks&#8221; handed out.  The stalking of children.  The &#8220;switching&#8221; of infants.  </p>
<p>To go back to the opening of Normanson&#8217;s piece on responsibility:  No, the Pearls were not physically present as Lydia was beaten to death.  I don&#8217;t think they are legally responsible for this death, but the fact that the Schatz&#8217; are fully responsible for their own actions does not negate one very simple fact.</p>
<p>The Pearls would be Christian teachers.  This puts a greater responsibility on them than on most.  Scripture tells us,</p>
<blockquote><p>Let not many of you become teachers my brethren, knowing that as such we will incur a stricter judgment. &#8211;James 3:1</p></blockquote>
<p>Some good advice and a few warnings peppered through a text that has such an emphasis on dominating a child does not put this ministry above question.</p>
<p><a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/Schatz">Schatz</a> <a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/Elizabeth+Schatz">Elizabeth Schatz</a> <a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/Kevin+Schatz">Kevin Schatz</a> <a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/Lydia+Schatz">Lydia Schatz</a> <a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/Pearls">Pearls</a> <a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/Michael+Pearl">Michael Pearl</a> <a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/No+Greater+Joy">No Greater Joy</a> <a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/TTUAC">TTUAC</a></p>
<div id="crp_related"><h3>Related Posts:</h3><ul><li><a href="http://roscommonacres.com/2010/02/the-pearls-abuse-and-a-false-gospel/" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">The Pearls, abuse and a false gospel</a></li><li><a href="http://roscommonacres.com/2006/03/hmmmmy-two-cents-on-no-greater-joy/" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Hmmm&#8230;My Two Cents on &quot;No Greater Joy.&quot;</a></li><li><a href="http://roscommonacres.com/2010/02/homeschool-family-charged-with-murder-torture-child-abuse/" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Homeschool family charged with murder, torture, child abuse</a></li><li><a href="http://roscommonacres.com/2006/05/controversy-at-the-carnvial/" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">Controversy at the Carnvial</a></li><li><a href="http://roscommonacres.com/2006/04/the-garden-of-eden/" rel="bookmark" class="crp_title">The Garden of Eden</a></li></ul></div><div style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0px" id="linksalpha_tag_1174232874" class="linksalpha-email-button" data-url="http://roscommonacres.com/2010/03/in-defense-of-the-pearls-some-thoughts/" data-text="In defense of the Pearls...some thoughts" data-desc=""Missy" left a comment on my entry The Pearls, abuse and a false gospel, which was apparently copied from No Greater Joy's Facebook page where it was copied from a squidoo lens.  I'm unclear whether permission to copy this was granted in either case, but have chosen to replace the comment with a link.  It is lengthy, but worth addressing.  Take some time to read the entire thing. All block quotes, unless otherwise marked, are from the squidoo lens authored by Regina Normanson.
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		<title>Thoughts on pediatricians and homeschooling</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Each time we go to the doctor&#8217;s office, I am run through a predictable line of questioning. No school today? (We homeschool.) Oh, that&#8217;s right!  How are they doing?  (Pretty well. Insert small talk type comments about what we&#8217;re actually doing.) So, do you want a flu shot today.  (No.) Not filling out the form [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://roscommonacres.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/pediatrician.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-1546" title="pediatrician" src="http://roscommonacres.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/pediatrician.jpg" alt="" width="177" height="256" /></a>Each time we go to the doctor&#8217;s office, I am run through a predictable line of questioning.</p>
<blockquote><p>No school today? (We homeschool.)</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Oh, that&#8217;s right!  How are they doing?  (Pretty well. Insert small talk type comments about what we&#8217;re actually doing.)</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>So, do you want a flu shot today.  (No.)</p></blockquote>
<p>Not filling out the form and not requesting one must have been an oversight.  Or I must be anti-vaccine because the nurse never fails to ask the next question on the list.</p>
<blockquote><p>Are your children current on vaccinations.  (Should be.)</p></blockquote>
<p>Because, you see, there are homeschoolers and then there are <em>those homeschoolers</em>.</p>
<blockquote><p>What kind of social activities do you have the children involved in?</p></blockquote>
<p>At this point, a few of the nurses go into their spiel about the importance of organized activities and friendships for social development and emotional well-being.  Most just go on to checking over my child, satisfied with my list of activities.  I know this is not the normal line of questioning for every parent, however, because on the rare occasion I come in with only one younger child, none of it comes up.</p>
<p>Then the doctor comes in and we get to go through it all again.  Except he always pulls their chart to check on their vaccination schedule and displays much more interest in the list of outside activities and encourages me to join a local homeschool group.</p>
<p>Talking with other homeschoolers online and off, this seems to be an occasional source of frustration.  I&#8217;ve heard more than a few complaints about the lack of trust the pediatrician displays, the frustration of defending decisions regarding vaccination or limiting outside activities, the &#8220;ignorance&#8221; regarding &#8220;socialization,&#8221; and the general annoyance of having your parenting questioned by a physician in front of the children.</p>
<p>Some, apparently, even have questions for the children regarding how safe they feel at home and what kinds of things they feel threatened by.  Few parents I know would be comfortable listening as the doctor broach the topic of child abuse.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never been annoyed by the questioning, however.  Amused, yes, but never annoyed. Part of it is because I&#8217;m just not really a confrontational person.  Not anymore, anyway.  Part of it is because their office really is supportive of homeschooling, and they manage to go through the questioning free of any accusatory or concerned tone.  In fact, their tone is much more like &#8220;What did you do over the weekend?&#8221; rather than &#8220;How can you do that to a child?!&#8221;  Part of it is because I expect it.  There is no shock at suddenly being asked what I&#8217;m asked at every visit, and with five children we have enough visits to the pediatrician to know what to expect.</p>
<p>Most of it, however, is because I <em>want</em> the questioning. <strong> </strong>I <em>pay</em> my pediatrician for his professional opinion regarding the healthy development of my child, not to encourage my choices, nor to affirm my choices nor to even agree with my choices.  If he has cause for concern, I expect him to educate me.  If we disagree on some aspect of my children&#8217;s care, I expect him to do his best to make sure I&#8217;m making an informed decision.</p>
<p>And honestly, I expect my children to be cared for and treated differently because they are homeschooled.  Because they are unique individuals in a unique situation.  My pediatrician earned my respect and loyalty a few years ago when I brought our eldest in with some generic, non-specific concerns.  She looked healthy.  I&#8217;m not sure anyone else in the world would have looked at her and wondered if something was wrong.  All her vital signs were normal.  But she just wasn&#8217;t quite herself, and hadn&#8217;t been for some time.  The doctor took my concerns seriously, but what&#8217;s more he took into account that my daughter does not complain when she isn&#8217;t feeling well.    He did a thorough exam, drew blood and encouraged me to schedule another appointment if it persisted.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it was coincidence that she was <a href="http://roscommonacres.com/2008/04/a-tentative-diagnosis/">diagnosed with ulcerative colitis</a> a few months later when some specific symptoms finally began to develop.  But you know&#8230;I would be very disappointed if our pediatrician did not take into account my daughter&#8217;s ulcerative colitis when treating her.  If he wasn&#8217;t concerned about side effects of the medicine, interactions with what he&#8217;s prescribing, her bone density, and her general nutrition.</p>
<p>Why should it be any different with homeschooling?  It certainly isn&#8217;t any sort of &#8220;risk factor,&#8221; but it is a decision that comes with a unique set of parenting challenges that a good doctor should be aware of.  I would be very uncomfortable if the state were to come into my home and start asking these sorts of questions simply because I submitted paperwork to homeschool, but the pediatrician isn&#8217;t the state.  And I pay him to do it.</p>
<p>How do you deal with your pediatrician&#8217;s questions?</p>
<p>_____</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget to visit this week&#8217;s <a href="http://homeschoolbuzz.com/2010/03/carnival-of-homeschool-oddities-edition.html">Carnival of Homeschooling, Oddities Edition</a>!</p>
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		<title>The Pearls, abuse and a false gospel</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been reading over several posts regarding the case of little Lydia Schatz being beaten to death by her parents in the middle of the night.  Her loving, cheerful family, full of all the promises Michael and Debi Pearl make throughout their literature.  For Michael Pearl guarantees happy, obedient children in just two days.  (Blockquotes [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been reading over several posts regarding the case of little <a href="http://roscommonacres.com/2010/02/homeschool-family-charged-with-murder-torture-child-abuse/">Lydia Schatz</a> being beaten to death by her parents in the middle of the night.  Her <a href="http://lauriemo.blogspot.com/2010/02/in-which-i-speak-of-unspeakable.html">loving, cheerful family</a>, full of all the promises Michael and Debi Pearl make throughout their literature.  For Michael Pearl guarantees happy, obedient children in just two days.  (Blockquotes in italics are from <a href="http://www.nogreaterjoy.org/articles/child-training/attitudes/article-display/archive/1998/august/01/angry-child/">Angry Child</a>, posted at<em> No Greater Joy</em>.)</p>
<blockquote><p><em>I could break his anger in two days. He would be too scared to get  angry. </em></p></blockquote>
<p>Too scared.  Beaten too severely.  For there is no upper limit on the number of spankings given a child.  No  &#8220;three swift swats and sent to his room until supper.&#8221;  Instead, he is beaten until <a href="http://www.nogreaterjoy.org/articles/child-training/attitudes/article-display/archive/1998/august/01/angry-child/">he  is without breath to complain</a>.  Beaten until he is utterly dominated.   And if he runs?  You walk through the house laughing at his vain  attempts at escape.  And just to drive the point home, you place these &#8220;rods&#8221; conspicuously about the house and wear one ever about your neck so that the little child may always see and <strong><em>remember</em></strong>.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>On the third day he would draw into a quiet shell and obey. </em></p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen children in that shell.  It is a role many children (and adults) fall into when their lives are governed by fear.  And remember, we&#8217;re on day three.  Day three!  Two days of beatings?  Stalkings?  Standing emotionless, pushing the child away, denying affection, denying love?  For they emphasize in another essay: <a href="http://www.nogreaterjoy.org/articles/general-view/archive/2000/september/01/the-will-to-dominate/">When they do something lovely, then you can love them. </a>How heartwarming is the thought of conditional love?</p>
<p>When an abused child is first placed in protective custody, there is a brief period (usually about a month) known as the &#8220;honeymoon.&#8221;  The foster parent tends to feel like the child believes he is safe.  The child is actually in a state of shock.  The<strong><em> first</em></strong> stage of grief.  And it results in remarkably compliant children who are too scared to do anything but obey.  Sadly, Lydia did not survive long enough to retreat into a quiet shell.  Her sister Zariah almost didn&#8217;t, but thankfully has been released from the hospital.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>On  the fourth day I would treat him with respect and he would respond in  kind. On the fifth day the fear would go away and he would relax because  he would have judged that as long as he responds correctly there is  nothing to fear. On the sixth day he would like himself better and enjoy  his new relationship to authority. On the seventh day I would  fellowship with him in some activity that he enjoyed. On the eight day  he would love me and would make a commitment to always please me because  he valued my approval and fellowship. On the ninth day someone would  comment that I had the most cheerful and obedient boy that they had ever  seen. </em></p></blockquote>
<p>And how many times was that said of the Schatz children?  Different to other cases I have read and discussed here, people are coming out and saying they knew this family.  That they were a loving, caring, Christian family.  That their children were happy and well-behaved.</p>
<blockquote><p>We&#8217;d been to their house a few times for church related functions, and  once just Paul and I were there, for dinner. We ate shepherd&#8217;s pie, and<strong> the children were a delight</strong> [emphasis mine]. They showed us how to milk their goats.   The husband also had always taken time to reach out to Paul, who in  person is extremely reserved and tends to be overlooked, and so Paul was  fond of him as well.  <a href="http://lauriemo.blogspot.com/2010/02/in-which-i-speak-of-unspeakable.html">Beauty for Ashes</a></p></blockquote>
<p>No one saw it coming.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>On the tenth day we would be the best of buddies.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>This is what is so insidious about this teaching.  Yes, <em>insidious</em>.  Well meaning, loving parents can be driven to abuse, torture and even murder based on a few anecdotes supported by misapplied and misinterpreted Scripture.  I reflect on the testimony of another Christian woman, one who fortunately did not go quite so far.</p>
<blockquote><p>And to believe that this doctrine of perfection is practically  attainable not only wrung the joy out of this family, extinguishing this  Mama’s heart of love and grace for my children, it led to <strong><em>excessive</em></strong>,  harsh, unbiblical discipline.  <a href="http://www.aholyexperience.com/2006/04/perfectionism.html">Holy Experience</a></p></blockquote>
<p>I do not believe it is insignificant that the child that was murdered and the child that was hospitalized were both adopted, nor that little Sean Paddock was adopted.  Children with a history of abuse will not respond the same to a spanking as a child brought up in an otherwise stable home.  And thinking back on it, working as a family support worker for a foster care agency was when I first encountered the pseudo-Christian sense of &#8220;mercy&#8221; regarding the orphans of our world.</p>
<p>Most felt called into other ministries, or just couldn&#8217;t picture themselves in that role, but the responses of a select few were perhaps more telling than I realized at the time.</p>
<blockquote><p>We would love to host these children in our home, but cannot until the state will let you discipline them.</p></blockquote>
<p>Which of course refers to spanking.  Because the state does &#8220;let&#8221; you discipline a child.  In fact, they require it.  I never saw red flags go off in a caseworker&#8217;s eyes so fast as when presented with a family that did not seem to address any misbehavior.  Is the parenting repertoire in these groups really so narrow that <strong>discipline is equated with spanking</strong> and <strong>there is no other acceptable parental response to misbehavior</strong>?</p>
<p>Of course, those outside Christianity are quick to pounce on this case.  It is everything they seem to want to believe about Christians.</p>
<blockquote><p>But I’m going to argue that the continued debating over the line  between forcing someone to submit and overt abuse that goes on in this  world completely misses the point.  When you define entire classes of  people, whether children or <a title="women" href="http://nogreaterjoy.org/blogs/createdtobehishelpmeet/">women</a>, as existing to submit and suggest that  willfulness is an evil brought upon your family by the devil, then abuse  is inevitable.  <strong>The idea itself</strong> is abusive and dehumanizing.   Everything else that follows from it is simply logical.</p>
<p>I’m struck, when reading right wing Christian child-rearing advice, on  how much the advice resembles the tactics that wife beaters use against  their victims. <a href="http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/fundies_and_child_abuse/">pandagon.net</a></p></blockquote>
<p>But here&#8217;s the thing.  This teaching isn&#8217;t extremist.  It isn&#8217;t fundamentalist.  It isn&#8217;t even &#8220;right wing.&#8221;  All of these terms imply that we are somehow all on the same spectrum, with similar beliefs and a fine little line somewhere that most of us choose not to cross, while others debate about precisely where to draw it.</p>
<p>Michael and Debi Pearl preach a different gospel, one in which sinless perfection is possible in this world.  Without Christ, even, as he shares in the opening chapters of <em>To Train Up a Child</em> where he points out that it is about raising obedient children, not Christian children.  It is from this philosophy, this philosophy of 100% perfection, this perfection that Michael Pearl claims to have been living in for years, that this philosophy is derived.</p>
<p>Not from scripture.</p>
<p>Not from watching Amish men and their mules.</p>
<p>Not from the fact they swatted their children and they presumably turned out alright.</p>
<p>If you apply their perfect teaching to your imperfect children, you will achieve perfection.  No need of redemption.  Only continual conditioning, a methodology I actually find much better placed within the secular behaviorist model.  Read up a little on B.F. Skinner&#8217;s radical behaviorism and then read <em>To Train Up a Child</em>.</p>
<p>In effect, the Pearls advocate making the home into an operant conditioning chamber. Not a model of mercy and grace, love and respect.  As Spunky pointed out, they have afforded the rod all the power the Gospel normally gives to Christ:  that of <a href="http://spunkyhomeschool.blogspot.com/2006/04/switch-or-cross_12.html">redemption</a>.</p>
<p>More on this case, if you can stomach it:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tulipgirl.com/index.php/category/michaelanddebipearl/">TulipGirl</a><br />
<a href="http://www.salon.com/life/parenting/index.html?story=/mwt/feature/2010/02/22/no_greater_joy">Godly Discipline Turned Deadly</a> (Interesting thoughts on the Christian response)<br />
<a href="http://www.thehomespunlife.com/2010/02/fundamental-discipline.html">Fundamental Discipline</a><br />
<a href="http://redhatrob.com/2010/02/tragedy-in-a-homeschooling-family/">Tragedy in a Homeschooling Family</a><br />
<a href="http://katiekind.wordpress.com/2010/02/15/when-parenting-kills-what-can-we-do/">When Parenting Kills</a><br />
<a href="http://spunkyhomeschool.blogspot.com/2010/02/senseless-deception.html">Senseless Deception</a></p>
<p><a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Schatz" rel="tag">Schatz</a> <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Elizabeth+Schatz" rel="tag">Elizabeth Schatz</a> <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Kevin+Schatz" rel="tag">Kevin Schatz</a> <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Lydia+Schatz" rel="tag">Lydia Schatz</a> <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Pearls" rel="tag">Pearls</a> <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/Michael+Pearl" rel="tag">Michael Pearl</a> <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/No+Greater+Joy" rel="tag">No Greater Joy</a> <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/TTUAC" rel="tag">TTUAC</a></p>
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		<title>Homeschool family charged with murder, torture, child abuse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Update: It looks like the DA has made the connection between the Schatz family&#8217;s method of discipline and a certain Christian ministry. He said investigators are researching a possible connection to an Internet Web site set up by &#8220;fundamentalist Christian people&#8221; that recommends use of the same whip-like implement &#8220;as an appropriate tool for biblical [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Update: </strong>It looks like the DA has made the connection between the Schatz family&#8217;s method of discipline and a certain Christian ministry.</p>
<blockquote><p>He said investigators are  researching a possible connection to an Internet Web site set up by  &#8220;fundamentalist Christian people&#8221; that recommends use of the same  whip-like implement &#8220;as an appropriate tool for biblical chastisement  &#8230; to train a child from infancy to make them a happier child and more  obedient to God because they are obedient to the will of their parents,&#8221;  said Ramsey.  <a href="http://www.orovillemr.com/news/ci_14387369">DA links  fundamentalist religious &#8216;training&#8217; to Paradise girl&#8217;s death</a></p></blockquote>
<p>I can only guess he&#8217;s talking about No Greater Joy by Michael and Debi Pearl, which I alluded to below.  At this time, I will only say I very much appreciate the DAs sensitivity in the matter.</p>
<blockquote><p>He said it&#8217;s not clear at this  point whether the Schatzes ever  visited the Internet Web site in  question, which Ramsey stressed &#8220;does  not endorse hurting or beating a  child,&#8221; nor is connected to any  specific church.  From the research he has done, the district attorney  pointed out  that &#8220;even within the fundamentalist Christian community&#8221;  parental use  of corporal punishment &#8220;is subject to a great deal of  debate.&#8221;  <em>Ibid.</em></p></blockquote>
<p><em><strong>And back to the original entry.</strong></em></p>
<p>An alleged abuse case leaves one adoptive child dead, another abused and seven other children in foster care.</p>
<blockquote><p>The younger victim was not breathing at the  time of discovery but was later revived with life support at Feather  River Hospital. However, she died en route after being transferred to  Sutter Memorial Hospital in Sacramento.</p>
<p>The 11-year-old is hospitalized at Sutter.  <a href="http://www.chicoer.com/news/ci_14351915">ChicoER.com</a></p></blockquote>
<p>It isn&#8217;t the family&#8217;s first time in the news, either.  While adopting three of their children from Liberia, they were<a href="http://www.knvn.com/content/localnews/story/New-Details-About-Couple-Accused-of-Killing/Sa_woJ_zUkuz6zFVXvnihg.cspx?rss=2224"> interviewed by a local television station</a> and put up a time line of their adoption.</p>
<p>From<a href="http://www.paradisepost.com/news/ci_14361157"> the reports</a>, they were a quiet family.  A Christian, secluded, invite-half-the -neighborhood-to-dinner, and &#8220;overall odd&#8221; sort of family.  Who homeschooled.</p>
<blockquote><p>Paradise police Sgt. Steve Rowe confirmed Lydia  was allegedly beaten for mispronouncing a word.  <a href="http://www.paradisepost.com/news/ci_14361157">Paradise Post</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Beaten until she went into cardiac arrest?  The instrument used for this &#8220;discipline&#8221; bears an <a href="http://www.tulipgirl.com/mt/archives/001058.html">eerie resemblance to another case</a>, one of the <a href="http://roscommonacres.com/2006/03/hmmmmy-two-cents-on-no-greater-joy/">first really controversial topics</a> I ever blogged about.</p>
<blockquote><p>Butte County District Attorney Mike Ramsey said  the girls were allegedly beaten with a 15-inch-long piece of flexible  plastic tubing commonly found in toilet tanks.</p>
<p>. . .</p>
<p>Ramsey said the remaining  children have indicated that they sustained similar discipline with  similar instruments. <em>Ibid.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>These stories always make me sick to my stomach.  Everyone has an interest in the interpretation of the story.  Homeschoolers want the abuse separated from education.  Christians want the religion separated from the parenting.  Those concerned about the whole child protective &#8220;industry&#8221; <a href="http://legallykidnapped.blogspot.com/2010/02/two-arrested-for-alleged-murder-of.html">focus on the adopted children</a>.  Those who have always thought homeschoolers a little odd take the chance to present homeschooling as a hiding place for abuse. <a href="http://poundpuplegacy.org/node/20821"> Pound Pup Legacy</a> even goes through the effort of summarizing information on children who have died in custody or adoptive homes, noting whether the family was homeschooling and of a fundamentalist faith.  Because those are, of course, major risk factors for abuse.  They of course make no mention of education or religion where the families neither homeschool nor belong to a &#8220;fundamentalist faith.&#8221;  But in the middle of it all, a child is dead, and another appears to be in critical condition at an area hospital.</p>
<p>And likely, there isn&#8217;t much anyone could have done to prevent it.  I think maybe that is why we are so quick to judge, to think &#8220;how could this have happened?&#8221; to think &#8220;something should have been done.&#8221;  And from there, it isn&#8217;t far to &#8220;something must be done to prevent this in future.&#8221;  And we focus on all the superfluous, irrelevant, subjective details.</p>
<p>But &#8220;odd&#8221; doesn&#8217;t warrant strip searching children for evidence of bruising; &#8220;overly modest&#8221; isn&#8217;t something you call CPS about; &#8220;protective from the outside world&#8221; hardly constitutes probable cause in any sort of an investigation.  And the family was friendly and involved in the community enough to be inviting neighbors for dinner, pick fruit from their neighbors&#8217; trees and clean their yards.  They were not completely locked away.</p>
<p>Just weird.</p>
<p>And well-behaved.</p>
<p>Not anything that would raise flags for even a mandated reporter.  After all, teachers somehow missed the fact a student was<a href="http://alasandras.blogspot.com/2010/02/public-school-student-locked-in-closet.html"> locked in a closet for over a year</a>, and allowed out only to go to school.</p>
<p>I suppose that is why the public service announcements out here encourage you to call even if you only<em> suspect </em>something is amiss, with the reassurance that you can remain completely anonymous.  We don&#8217;t stop too much to think what that means for us as a society, turning neighbors into anonymous tipsters.  We just hope that CPS can sort it out, and that some child somewhere might be saved.</p>
<p>But the one thing that stood out to me in this story was that there was no prior history of child abuse, no list of previous CPS contacts.  Believe it or not, that seems to be the norm in child death cases, proving that even those most trained to work with abuse can still miss the signs.  Or perhaps even proving that there aren&#8217;t always signs to notice.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sunday night, the children and I sat down to watch a movie on Hulu since we have no television (and no real interest in football, anyway.)  On the lineup?  Princess, because I&#8217;ve had about all the Flipper and Fudge I can take.  The plot doesn&#8217;t really matter.  Suffice it to say, she doesn&#8217;t get out [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://roscommonacres.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/castle.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-1446" style="margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 5px;" title="castle" src="http://roscommonacres.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/castle.jpg" alt="" width="219" height="174" /></a>Sunday night, the children and I sat down to watch a movie on Hulu since we have no television (and no real interest in football, anyway.)  On the lineup?  <a href="http://www.hulu.com/watch/125310/princess">Princess</a>, because I&#8217;ve had about all the Flipper and Fudge I can take.  The plot doesn&#8217;t really matter.  Suffice it to say, she doesn&#8217;t get out much, having spent almost her entire life in this castle.  And it doesn&#8217;t take long for the writers to invoke our culture&#8217;s one great symbol of isolation:</p>
<blockquote><p>Rumor has it, she was <em>homeschooled</em>.</p></blockquote>
<p>Being a princess, you sort of automatically think of governesses and tutors, for what sort of princess is properly homeschooled?  But nothing says locked-away-in-a-tower quite like <em>homeschooled</em>, so homeschooled she was.  And seriously, how else would lines like &#8220;I don&#8217;t socialize much,&#8221; and &#8220;Can you tell I&#8217;m not used to this?&#8221; (referring to, uh, having a conversation) make any sense?</p>
<p>Now<em> we</em> homeschool.  Locked away in the west tower, looking out over the kingdom and unable to have any part in it.  I asked my children what they thought about the comment, but the negative undertone passed by them unnoticed.</p>
<blockquote><p>Of course she was homeschooled, mom.  She doesn&#8217;t have time for school with all those mythological monsters to take care of.</p></blockquote>
<p>So I don&#8217;t have to worry about what subliminal messages they are being fed, just yet.  It all makes sense within the context of their own experience and beliefs about what homeschooling is and is not.</p>
<p>But the stereotypes are heavy on my mind as I look around at nearby churches.  It is a long drive in to Lincoln for worship, long enough to negate any real participation in the church community there.  When our commitments are through, I hope to move to a local church where we can be part of an active community.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d never really thought about it before.  I know people who have had difficulty in their home churches due to homeschooling, but Lincoln is big enough that it just isn&#8217;t that hard to move to another church.  The pickings are slim, out here, and somehow, we&#8217;re going to just have to make things work if we want to worship in our own community.</p>
<p>I like the<em> idea</em> of that, but I guess we shall see how it plays out once we begin actually visiting churches.</p>
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		<title>Thoughts of a secular German homeschooler on the asylum case</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The story of how the Romeike&#8217;s, a German homeschooling family, was granted asylum by a judge in Tennessee has made quite a few waves, with reports in Time, Education Week, Forbes, The Washington Post, not to mention blogs.  I&#8217;ve seen a nearly constant stream of updates in Twitter as yet another circle of people I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The story of how the Romeike&#8217;s, a German homeschooling family, was granted asylum by a judge in Tennessee has made quite a few waves, with reports in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westdeutscher_Rundfunk">Time</a>, <a href="http://www.edweek.org/login.html?source=http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2010/01/26/326945usrelgermanhomeschoolfamily_ap.html&amp;destination=http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2010/01/26/326945usrelgermanhomeschoolfamily_ap.html&amp;levelId=1000">Education Week</a>,<a href="http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2010/01/26/general-us-rel-german-homeschool-family_7305359.html"> Forbes</a>, <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/26/AR2010012603298.html">The Washington Post</a>, not to mention blogs.  I&#8217;ve seen a nearly constant stream of updates in Twitter as yet another circle of people I follow learn the news and pass it on.</p>
<p>Homeschooling, it seems, may have finally been defined as a basic human right as well as a <a href="http://www.hslda.org/hs/international/Germany/201001260.asp">particular social group</a> by an American court.  HSLDA says they took the case partially in hopes of influencing public opinion in Germany.  It certainly has spurred the national debate, with the story hitting major newspapers, television, radio and the<a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=romeike&amp;btnG=Search+Blogs"> German blogs are on fire</a> with the discussion.</p>
<p>I wanted to provide a slightly different perspective on the issue, with the thoughts of a secular German homeschooler/unschooler who currently has children in the German public schools.  The translation is my own.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Thoughts on the Romeikes:</strong></p>
<p>The WDR <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westdeutscher_Rundfunk">(</a><em>Translator&#8217;s note:</em> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westdeutscher_Rundfunk"><em>West German Radio</em></a><em>, German public broadcasting</em>) holds a team meeting, One of the topics:  The Romeike Family.  The current WDR editor asks whether one can be skeptical of the Christian views.  I, like the conversation partner who spoke with the WDR, think yes, one may.  BUT no one, because of his beliefs or because he represents a minority, should have to leave this country, because enough other families know that things aren&#8217;t the best with our own schools.</p>
<p>&#8220;Why shouldn&#8217;t we allow home education in Germany, where perhaps only a couple thousand would take this option?&#8221; were the thoughts posed to the WDR.  The answer came quickly.  The editor said only two words, &#8220;If that.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, if only a few thousand families were to home educate.  If only a third of these did so for Christian reasons.  A strong country should respect its minorities and not suppress them.  Because most Germans love their land and should be supported.  The editor also took these thoughts in his meeting.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been at &#8220;learning at home&#8221; for almost six years with my oldest son Manuel, whom many of you know.  For almost two years, he has been learning almost fully alone.  The first years were also arduous:  Considering what needed to be learned, the search for materials, the preparation and follow-up, the learning alongside.  It was also expensive, in two regards:  all the books to buy, supplemental materials, one tinkers, works, holds animals, plants and visits museums and other institutions&#8211;everything for education.  And one pays court costs in order to be clear of penalties and fines.  It was also a very beautiful time and it is still now, because Manuel has become an independent, self-possessed young person&#8211;like many free learners I have come to know.  Most do it for reasons very different from the Romeikes, the authorities however proceed the same: Fines and penalties and finally comes the youth welfare office, which tries to compel the children to school with threats.</p>
<p>Now my youngest two sons go to school&#8211;many of their best friends are unschoolers and homeschoolers.  They go to school, because that is what one does, because they can and are successful and&#8211;and because they may learn at home what they do not receive in school.  Without challenge at home, without support for their interests, the education in the school would be insufficient.  I was raised Christian, but am of the opinion that my children should decide for themselves which beliefs they would like to have and was always dissatisfied with the religious instruction in the schools.  Therefore, my sons go to Ethics.  (<em>Translator&#8217;s note:  Religious education is compulsory in Germany, generally Protestant in the north and Catholic in the south.</em>)</p>
<p>Today in the school is a participatory concert, a minister will come, he will sing with the children.  In the first two school hours.  Normally in this time, core subjects are taught.  Normally after that,  one of my children has PE, which is canceled for the day; a substitute teacher will keep the children busy.</p>
<p>We must pay 2 Euro per child for the minister&#8217;s concert, we received a parent letter which stated that the children of the first grades would participate in the concert as a required event.  We were not asked how we felt about that.</p>
<p>I asked my children if I should ask the teachers what the Ethics children were to do in that time&#8211;and whether they would actually like to go.  My younger son gave the answer: &#8220;But Mama, we&#8217;re singing the songs of Noah&#8217;s Ark, we&#8217;ve been practicing.  EVERYONE&#8217;S going.&#8221;  We&#8217;re a democratic household, had the boys said they wouldn&#8217;t like to go, it would have to be considered how the school could accommodate the children.  So it was naturally also simple, they wanted to participate, so they will participate.</p>
<p>I had no more words after that for the statements of my children, I had to reflect on that.  Clearly, today they have gone there.  It is sure that it will be fun for them.  But I have understood what persuades Christian homeschoolers like the Romeikes to leave this country, although I find it unfortunate.  We still have a constitution, with parental rights and freedom of belief.  I have tried to grant this freedom of belief to my children.  I hold to the law and my children attend a state school, which also has nice aspects, because in that time I can work and have time for my children in the afternoons.</p>
<p>But&#8211;today the state, represented by the primary school, determines that my children are required to compensate and accompany a minister for a concert and prior to this, the school successfully proselytised them and taught them subjects of faith without my knowledge.</p>
<p>My children are strong children and tell everything at home and we will talk about it and answer the questions that come up.  But what about the children that have a home where parents do not have this time&#8211;because there is too little money and both parents must work all day?  What about the children who may not be able to bring their questions about new beliefs home to their parents?  Does the state really have the responsibility to determine in which Christian beliefs my children should be brought up?</p>
<p>After the Romeike&#8217;s asylum proceedings, the state, the schools and the teachers should reflect what their purposes are.  Above all that, while the press explains that Germans have fled to the USA for their freedom of belief and were granted asylum, today Christians, Muslims and children from other religions sat in an elementary school gymnasium and participated in a concert with a minister, the exact contents of which were previously unknown to us parents.</p>
<p>I wish the Romeike family well, and may Germany go thoughtfully into the day&#8230;</p>
<p>~Corinna</p></blockquote>
<p>And indeed, what are the purposes of the state in education? <a href="http://www.doe.mass.edu/news/news.aspx?id=4429">Preparation for a global economy</a> and socialization, the latter of which has significant parallels with the &#8220;<a href="http://roscommonacres.com/2006/09/parents-right-to-educate-by-its-nature-calls-for-regulation-by-the-state/">parallel societies</a>&#8221; argument Germany has used to support it&#8217;s persecution of homeschooling families.  That is also why I think it is important to get the answer to the ubiquitous question &#8220;<a href="http://roscommonacres.com/2007/05/how-education-became-indoctrination/">What about socialization</a>?&#8221; right.  We as homeschoolers are held in the middle of our own national conversation and while I do not foresee us seeking asylum abroad any time soon, I do believe how we answer this with friends and strangers may have a greater long term impact than all our legislative efforts.</p>
<p>I am happy to see this has sparked quite a bit of conversation in Germany.  It is one thing to hold that &#8220;children should go to school&#8221; and quite another to be confronted with the consequences of deciding not to, which at times leads to the decision to face losing your children or fleeing the country.  And while many have tried to make this about religion, Corinna makes it clear that your religious beliefs are irrelevant when the state discovers you are homeschooling.</p>
<p>What do you think about asylum being granted for homeschoolers fleeing Germany?</p>
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<p>Other blogs discussing the decision:</p>
<p><a href="http://homeschoolbuzz.com/search.html?cx=010763500777362669027%3At8z8bfqeu4m&amp;cof=FORID%3A10&amp;q=romeike&amp;sa=Search#716">HomeschoolBuzz</a><br />
<a href="http://whyhomeschool.blogspot.com/2010/01/have-you-heard-news.html">Why Homeschool</a><br />
<a href="http://www.examiner.com/x-5559-Homeschooling-Newbie-Examiner~y2010m1d28-Political-asylum-granted-to-homeschoolers-first-time-in-US-history">Examiner.com</a><br />
<a href="http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2010/01/28/homeschooling-german-family-awarded-political-asylum-in-u-s-where-is-u-s-media/">Stop the ACLU</a><br />
<a href="http://redstateeclectic.typepad.com/redstate_commentary/2010/01/us-shelters-political-refugees-from-germany.html">RedStateEclectic</a><br />
<a href="http://the-teacher.blogspot.com/2010/01/german-family-receives-asylum-from.html">The Teacher</a><br />
<a href="http://ericsammons.com/blog/2010/01/20/political-asylum-for-homeschooling/">The Divine Life</a><br />
<a href="http://www.homeedmag.com/newscomm/4165/romeike-family-asylum/">Home Education Magazine</a><br />
<a href="http://educatinggermany.7doves.com/2010/01/27/romeike-s-rest-easier">Educating Germany</a><br />
<a href="http://dailysalty.blogspot.com/2010/02/german-christian-homeschoolers-may-be.html">The Daily Salty</a><br />
<a href="http://ow.ly/13Jtz">Babycenter</a></p>
<p><a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/homeschooling">homeschooling</a> <a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/home+education">home education</a> <a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/Romeike">Romeike</a> <a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/asylum">asylum</a> <a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/socialization">socialization</a> <a rel="tag" href="http://technorati.com/tag/religion">religion</a></p>
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		<title>Fervor over learning styles a waste of time and money?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The science behind learning styles According to Learning Styles, Concepts and Evicence, a study [pdf] published in the journal Psychological Science in the Public Interest, that whole learning styles thing may not be all we think it is.  Sure, it seems to form the basis for many a text both for public school teachers and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The science behind learning styles</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://roscommonacres.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/journal-cover1.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-1404" style="margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 5px;" title="journal cover" src="http://roscommonacres.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/journal-cover1.jpg" alt="" width="97" height="142" /></a>According to <em>Learning Styles, Concepts and Evicence</em>, a<a href="http://www.psychologicalscience.org/journals/pspi/PSPI_9_3.pdf"> study</a> [pdf] published in the journal <em>Psychological Science in the Public Interest</em>, that whole learning styles thing may not be all we think it is.  Sure, it seems to form the basis for many a text both for public school teachers and homeschoolers, but what is the basis for it?</p>
<blockquote><p>Although the literature on learning styles is enormous, very few studies have even used an experimental methodology capable of testing the validity of learning styles applied to education.  Moreover, of those that did use an appropriate method, several found results that flatly contradict the popular meshing hypothesis.  <em>Learning Styles, Concepts and Evidence</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Rather than hard science, the movement has its origins in the more touchy-feely self-esteem movement of the 70s. And while their study in no way disproves that learning styles exist nor even that teaching in a child&#8217;s preferred modality may be beneficial, they argue rather strongly that we are spending a lot of time and money on something with very little scientific evidence behind it.</p>
<blockquote><p>If education is to be transformed into an evidence-based field, it is important not only to identify teaching techniques that have experimental support but also to identify widely held beliefs that affect the choices made by educational practitioners but that lack empirical support.  <em>Ibid.</em></p></blockquote>
<p><strong>Transforming education into an evidence-based field</strong></p>
<p>And that&#8217;s where the researchers begin to lose me.  I am all for effective classrooms, but I&#8217;m not so sure we want education to become an evidence-based field.  I&#8217;m not sure we want to view teaching as data delivery, learning as data acquisition and testing as the measurable difference between the two.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure we want education reduced to what can be tested in a multiple-choice format.</p>
<p>There is so much more to education.  It is about the whole child and <a href="It is about “enlightening the understanding, correcting the temper, forming the manners and habits of youth and fitting him for usefulness in his future station.”">how he is to be brought up</a>.  It is about “enlightening the understanding, correcting the temper, forming the manners and habits of youth and fitting him for usefulness in his future station.”  Direct instruction and other behavior based programs may be empirically proven to improve math scores, but do they improve children?</p>
<p>How a child is taught is important, and not just for its ability to transfer the largest amount of data for the least amount of resources.  I may be going out on a limb here, but I&#8217;m guessing<a href="http://cockingasnook.wordpress.com/"> JJRoss&#8217;</a> decision to unschool, the <a href="http://heartkeepercommonroom.blogspot.com/">Headmistress&#8217; </a>decision to use Charlotte Mason, <a href="http://lifenurturingeducation.com/">Renae&#8217;s</a> decision to use the Principle Approach, and <a href="http://concordiaclassicalacademy.blogspot.com/">The Mama&#8217;s</a> decision to use a classical approach had little to do with which methodology would most efficiently lead to proficiency in any given subject.  Their decisions were based in what they believe about the nature of teaching and learning, and the role of the teacher and student.  As such, how we teach our children invariably communicates our beliefs about teaching and learning and the roles of teachers and students to our children.</p>
<p>How we learn affects how we think.  It affects our attitudes and beliefs about the very nature of human learning and the role we play in the construction of our own knowledge.</p>
<p>And this is why we must be careful of the so-called research-based classroom.  It carries with it its own definition of education that has been somewhat narrowly interpreted as high test scores.  I am all for assessing what we are doing in our classrooms and in our homes, but before we do this, we need to carefully define what we are looking for.  As <em>The Core Knowledge Blog</em> points out,</p>
<blockquote><p>If we begin instead with a definition of education, then a curious thing may happen. The results will likely be better, yet they will not rule what we do. We will recognize that learning is for the long term as well as for the next day. We will recognize that some of the most difficult concepts and works last the longest in the mind. They may not translate immediately into results, yet they are unlikely to vanish. We will expect short-term results but teach beyond them.  <a href="http://blog.coreknowledge.org/2010/01/07/there%E2%80%99s-no-such-thing-as-%E2%80%98teaching%E2%80%99/">There&#8217;s No Such Thing As Teaching</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Discussing education as an evidence-based field restricts it to what is observable, measurable and testable.  It tells us what teaching methodologies produce good results on standardized tests such as the CAT or I-STEP.  It does not, however, tell us which methodologies produce thinkers, problem-solvers, artists, book-lovers, and teachers.  It does not tell us which methodologies support the child in setting and achieving their own goals, nor which help them to take responsibility for their own learning.</p>
<p>Are we really willing to let go of all that in the name of higher test scores?  Or do we want to hold on to the belief that education means just a little bit more than that?</p>
<p>Still, children need to learn to read, but I will continue with that thought in a future posting.</p>
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According to Learning Styles, Concepts and Evicence, a study [pdf] published in the journal Psychological Science in the Public Interest, that whole learning styles thing may not be all we think it is.  Sure, it seems to form the basis for many a text both for public school teachers and homeschoolers, but what is the basis for it?
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