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		<title>By: JJ</title>
		<link>http://roscommonacres.com/2010/03/thoughts-on-pediatricians-and-homeschooling/comment-page-1/#comment-12653</link>
		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pregnancy kills more teens than contraception, which is the kind of medical counsel even from pediatricians that used to be universally viewed as appropriately separate from church counsel.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pregnancy kills more teens than contraception, which is the kind of medical counsel even from pediatricians that used to be universally viewed as appropriately separate from church counsel.<br />
.-= JJ&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://cockingasnook.wordpress.com/2010/03/04/why-fencing-knickers-make-me-feel-at-home/" rel="nofollow">Why Fencing Knickers Make Me Feel at Home</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Crimson Wife</title>
		<link>http://roscommonacres.com/2010/03/thoughts-on-pediatricians-and-homeschooling/comment-page-1/#comment-12652</link>
		<dc:creator>Crimson Wife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 06:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have any particular objection to a mom taking her teen to see a gynecologist for the purposes of obtaining contraception. I don&#039;t agree with it, but it&#039;s her kid and she has the right to make whatever parenting decisions she feels are best.

What I object to is the government interfering with my parenting decisions and authorizing Planned Parenthood or whoever to provide contraceptives or worse perform an abortion on my minor child without my knowledge. My kid can&#039;t even get her ears pierced or visit a tanning booth without my consent but under CA law she could at age 12 secretly receive medication or major surgery that could kill her (yes, that&#039;s rare but it does unfortunately happen). 

A large percentage of girls who become sexually active in their early-to-mid teens are being coerced into it by older men. This is where the lack of parental involvement under current law is most dangerous. How can I protect my child from being exploited when the law deliberately keeps me in the dark?
.-= Crimson Wife&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://bendingthetwigs.blogspot.com/2010/02/spring-semester-update-pt-1.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Spring Semester Update Pt. 1&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have any particular objection to a mom taking her teen to see a gynecologist for the purposes of obtaining contraception. I don&#8217;t agree with it, but it&#8217;s her kid and she has the right to make whatever parenting decisions she feels are best.</p>
<p>What I object to is the government interfering with my parenting decisions and authorizing Planned Parenthood or whoever to provide contraceptives or worse perform an abortion on my minor child without my knowledge. My kid can&#8217;t even get her ears pierced or visit a tanning booth without my consent but under CA law she could at age 12 secretly receive medication or major surgery that could kill her (yes, that&#8217;s rare but it does unfortunately happen). </p>
<p>A large percentage of girls who become sexually active in their early-to-mid teens are being coerced into it by older men. This is where the lack of parental involvement under current law is most dangerous. How can I protect my child from being exploited when the law deliberately keeps me in the dark?<br />
.-= Crimson Wife&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://bendingthetwigs.blogspot.com/2010/02/spring-semester-update-pt-1.html" rel="nofollow">Spring Semester Update Pt. 1</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
		<link>http://roscommonacres.com/2010/03/thoughts-on-pediatricians-and-homeschooling/comment-page-1/#comment-12650</link>
		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 01:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And who said she didn&#039;t discuss it all with me in the first place? But I&#039;m not the right kind of doctor for that . . .  ;-)
.-= JJ&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://cockingasnook.wordpress.com/2010/03/04/why-fencing-knickers-make-me-feel-at-home/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Why Fencing Knickers Make Me Feel at Home&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And who said she didn&#8217;t discuss it all with me in the first place? But I&#8217;m not the right kind of doctor for that . . .  <img src='http://roscommonacres.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
.-= JJ&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://cockingasnook.wordpress.com/2010/03/04/why-fencing-knickers-make-me-feel-at-home/" rel="nofollow">Why Fencing Knickers Make Me Feel at Home</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 01:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the medical professional&#039;s POV, what does that have to do with it?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the medical professional&#8217;s POV, what does that have to do with it?<br />
.-= JJ&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://cockingasnook.wordpress.com/2010/03/04/why-fencing-knickers-make-me-feel-at-home/" rel="nofollow">Why Fencing Knickers Make Me Feel at Home</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Crimson Wife</title>
		<link>http://roscommonacres.com/2010/03/thoughts-on-pediatricians-and-homeschooling/comment-page-1/#comment-12647</link>
		<dc:creator>Crimson Wife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 00:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The difference is that a teen girl is still a child. If she&#039;s mature enough to be needing advice about family planning, then she ought to be mature enough to discuss the issue with a parent/guardian. And if she isn&#039;t able to do that, then that&#039;s a sign that she really isn&#039;t ready for adult behavior with the very real potential for life-altering (even potentially fatal) consequences.
.-= Crimson Wife&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://bendingthetwigs.blogspot.com/2010/02/spring-semester-update-pt-1.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Spring Semester Update Pt. 1&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference is that a teen girl is still a child. If she&#8217;s mature enough to be needing advice about family planning, then she ought to be mature enough to discuss the issue with a parent/guardian. And if she isn&#8217;t able to do that, then that&#8217;s a sign that she really isn&#8217;t ready for adult behavior with the very real potential for life-altering (even potentially fatal) consequences.<br />
.-= Crimson Wife&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://bendingthetwigs.blogspot.com/2010/02/spring-semester-update-pt-1.html" rel="nofollow">Spring Semester Update Pt. 1</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our Catholic father=of-five pediatrician has been great ever since my first child was born and he was there in the delivery room to be her doctor in that first moment.  But when she got older and developed naturally, and I delicately began to inquire from the staff how long she could be his patient before she would be considered too old for a pediatrician (gynecological exams?) the response was flat -- up to age 18 if she&#039;s behaving! No sign of a smile or a joke.  They meant it -- because nof what, sex or alcohol, smoking, maybe eating problems, cutting problems and depression, what??

We got her a female gynecologist the next week and she didn&#039;t go back to the pediatrician.
.-= JJ&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://cockingasnook.wordpress.com/2010/03/04/why-fencing-knickers-make-me-feel-at-home/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Why Fencing Knickers Make Me Feel at Home&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our Catholic father=of-five pediatrician has been great ever since my first child was born and he was there in the delivery room to be her doctor in that first moment.  But when she got older and developed naturally, and I delicately began to inquire from the staff how long she could be his patient before she would be considered too old for a pediatrician (gynecological exams?) the response was flat &#8212; up to age 18 if she&#8217;s behaving! No sign of a smile or a joke.  They meant it &#8212; because nof what, sex or alcohol, smoking, maybe eating problems, cutting problems and depression, what??</p>
<p>We got her a female gynecologist the next week and she didn&#8217;t go back to the pediatrician.<br />
.-= JJ&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://cockingasnook.wordpress.com/2010/03/04/why-fencing-knickers-make-me-feel-at-home/" rel="nofollow">Why Fencing Knickers Make Me Feel at Home</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
		<link>http://roscommonacres.com/2010/03/thoughts-on-pediatricians-and-homeschooling/comment-page-1/#comment-12645</link>
		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cw -- right, I get all of that and see no difference compared to a desperate teen for example, seeking contraception or a morning-after prescription when contraception has failed. . .
.-= JJ&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://cockingasnook.wordpress.com/2010/03/04/why-fencing-knickers-make-me-feel-at-home/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Why Fencing Knickers Make Me Feel at Home&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cw &#8212; right, I get all of that and see no difference compared to a desperate teen for example, seeking contraception or a morning-after prescription when contraception has failed. . .<br />
.-= JJ&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://cockingasnook.wordpress.com/2010/03/04/why-fencing-knickers-make-me-feel-at-home/" rel="nofollow">Why Fencing Knickers Make Me Feel at Home</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Crimson Wife</title>
		<link>http://roscommonacres.com/2010/03/thoughts-on-pediatricians-and-homeschooling/comment-page-1/#comment-12641</link>
		<dc:creator>Crimson Wife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JJ- the medical establishment has pushed parents to make all-or-none decisions about vax in many cases by doing things like suspending the manufacturing of the separate measles, mumps, &amp; rubella shots. My youngest is due in a couple months for either the combo MMR shot (which I have serious concerns about) or the first of the separate shots. The unavailability of the latter puts me in a real dilemma. 

I could hold off on the MMR shot until she&#039;s older and her immune system is better able to handle it, but that puts her at risk of coming down with one of the diseases. I could go ahead and give her the combo shot, but that puts her at risk of having a serious negative side effect like autism. BTW, I&#039;m not just parroting Jenny McCarthy or Dr. Mercola, I&#039;ve done my homework and have legitimate doubts about the research &quot;proving&quot; the safety of the combo MMR shot. 

It makes me angry that I&#039;m being pushed into an all-or-nothing decision on this. Why can&#039;t I just get the separate shots for my 3rd the way I did for my 2nd?
.-= Crimson Wife&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://bendingthetwigs.blogspot.com/2010/02/spring-semester-update-pt-1.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Spring Semester Update Pt. 1&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JJ- the medical establishment has pushed parents to make all-or-none decisions about vax in many cases by doing things like suspending the manufacturing of the separate measles, mumps, &amp; rubella shots. My youngest is due in a couple months for either the combo MMR shot (which I have serious concerns about) or the first of the separate shots. The unavailability of the latter puts me in a real dilemma. </p>
<p>I could hold off on the MMR shot until she&#8217;s older and her immune system is better able to handle it, but that puts her at risk of coming down with one of the diseases. I could go ahead and give her the combo shot, but that puts her at risk of having a serious negative side effect like autism. BTW, I&#8217;m not just parroting Jenny McCarthy or Dr. Mercola, I&#8217;ve done my homework and have legitimate doubts about the research &#8220;proving&#8221; the safety of the combo MMR shot. </p>
<p>It makes me angry that I&#8217;m being pushed into an all-or-nothing decision on this. Why can&#8217;t I just get the separate shots for my 3rd the way I did for my 2nd?<br />
.-= Crimson Wife&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://bendingthetwigs.blogspot.com/2010/02/spring-semester-update-pt-1.html" rel="nofollow">Spring Semester Update Pt. 1</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
		<link>http://roscommonacres.com/2010/03/thoughts-on-pediatricians-and-homeschooling/comment-page-1/#comment-12638</link>
		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me doctors as well as other medical professionals like nurses and pharmacists, are sometimes condemned for this same best judgment, &quot;flexibility&quot; and individual patient-centered approach when it is someone&#039;s else&#039;s family at issue, by some of the same people who appreciate it for themselves.  

It&#039;s just not easy. Vaccination opt-outs can affect others,but it&#039;s not just that. What about doctors deferring to parents by over-prescribing antibiotics to children for ear infections, or even for colds and other conditions completely inappropriate for that treatment?  It can hurt everyone&#039;s children and the general public when resistant superstrains then develop. I don&#039;t want unconventional parents mistreated at the doctor&#039;s office -- but I don&#039;t want any mistreatment, period so as the best we can do, I like Dana&#039;s take on how to balance the personal, the professional and the public interest.

Just remember many (a substantial majority of?) parents want vaccinations and reproductive options, e.g., as legal, medically mainstream treatments and services, and therefore expect all practitioners to be willing and competent to accommodate those decisions, even though some may have personal or professional concerns. So don&#039;t we each have the obligation to openly, intentionally stand for that parent and every parent deserving the same wide range of options, deference, privacy, access to and respect from doctors (and other professionals, the body politic, fellow homeschoolers) that we want for ourselves?
.-= JJ&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://cockingasnook.wordpress.com/2010/03/04/why-fencing-knickers-make-me-feel-at-home/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Why Fencing Knickers Make Me Feel at Home&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me doctors as well as other medical professionals like nurses and pharmacists, are sometimes condemned for this same best judgment, &#8220;flexibility&#8221; and individual patient-centered approach when it is someone&#8217;s else&#8217;s family at issue, by some of the same people who appreciate it for themselves.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s just not easy. Vaccination opt-outs can affect others,but it&#8217;s not just that. What about doctors deferring to parents by over-prescribing antibiotics to children for ear infections, or even for colds and other conditions completely inappropriate for that treatment?  It can hurt everyone&#8217;s children and the general public when resistant superstrains then develop. I don&#8217;t want unconventional parents mistreated at the doctor&#8217;s office &#8212; but I don&#8217;t want any mistreatment, period so as the best we can do, I like Dana&#8217;s take on how to balance the personal, the professional and the public interest.</p>
<p>Just remember many (a substantial majority of?) parents want vaccinations and reproductive options, e.g., as legal, medically mainstream treatments and services, and therefore expect all practitioners to be willing and competent to accommodate those decisions, even though some may have personal or professional concerns. So don&#8217;t we each have the obligation to openly, intentionally stand for that parent and every parent deserving the same wide range of options, deference, privacy, access to and respect from doctors (and other professionals, the body politic, fellow homeschoolers) that we want for ourselves?<br />
.-= JJ&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://cockingasnook.wordpress.com/2010/03/04/why-fencing-knickers-make-me-feel-at-home/" rel="nofollow">Why Fencing Knickers Make Me Feel at Home</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: TulipGirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>TulipGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 03:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We had comprehensive (and I mean comprehensive!) medical exams for the kids in July, as a preliminary step to moving overseas.  This was the first time we saw this particular doc, and I took all four boys in at once.  And --  the doc was great, the office was great, and even though he raised his eyebrow at the vax thing (selective vaxing) neither that nor homeschooling was an &quot;issue&quot; for him.  

And while I&#039;m totally okay with kids being kids and it is important to me to NOT communicate to my kids a &quot;performance&quot; mentality -- well, I&#039;ve got to say I was oh-so-thankful that the kids were super cooperative, super well behaved, and quietly read during our four hour appointment.  I think that allayed any misgivings the doc may have had.  (That, and I was very open and honest about some sensitive medical concerns. . .)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had comprehensive (and I mean comprehensive!) medical exams for the kids in July, as a preliminary step to moving overseas.  This was the first time we saw this particular doc, and I took all four boys in at once.  And &#8212;  the doc was great, the office was great, and even though he raised his eyebrow at the vax thing (selective vaxing) neither that nor homeschooling was an &#8220;issue&#8221; for him.  </p>
<p>And while I&#8217;m totally okay with kids being kids and it is important to me to NOT communicate to my kids a &#8220;performance&#8221; mentality &#8212; well, I&#8217;ve got to say I was oh-so-thankful that the kids were super cooperative, super well behaved, and quietly read during our four hour appointment.  I think that allayed any misgivings the doc may have had.  (That, and I was very open and honest about some sensitive medical concerns. . .)</p>
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